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Communication between contributorsEdit

00:17, 5 September 2019‎

On this particular edition, the entire part of my edition was removed.

Before I simply undo the deletion, is there anyway that I could communicate with the person or in this page group to find out why the deletion is necessary? I mean: if it was because my message was inappropriate, I need to know in what sense, and how to revise it. If it is simply due to a geographically political differences perceived by the deletor, s/he can put a paragraph above or below mine to dispute, rather than simply delete other people's contribution. Thank you and best regards, jdeng793 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdeng793 (talkcontribs) 20:15, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

@Jdeng793: Start a discussion on the article's talk page. You can also leave a message on that user's talk page, but since it is an IP account, there is no knowing if the same person will see it or not. RudolfRed (talk) 20:17, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

September 27Edit

Trying to find a way to make suggestions and influence policy.Edit

How can I make suggestions and influence policies on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trusam (talkcontribs) 00:47, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello Trusam. The Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) is a good place to start. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 00:51, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Why am I not seeing the "editing toolbar"?Edit

Menu bar that purports to appear when I edit a page. Except that it doesn't.

I have been an editor for 10 years, averaging 1½ edits per day, but I have never created a table. I'd like to give it a try. According to Help:Introduction to tables with Wiki Markup/1, "The easiest way to insert a new table is to use the editing toolbar that appears when you edit a page." The reference is apparently to the toolbar at the left. Despite 5582 edits, I don't think that I have ever seen it before calling up the Help page today. As a novice table-creator, I'd like to follow "the easiest way" but I don't see how I can. Advice, please? Peter Brown (talk) 00:48, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

@Peter M. Brown: If you mean you see the first row of icons but not the second one, click "> Advanced" in the first row to make the second row appear. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 01:38, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
I have not seen either row before today. From my familiarity with other software, I can guess what some of the symbols mean, but I don't see them anywhere on the page that appears when I click [edit] at the top of an article or section. If I could gain access to these icons, would clicking on XI let me create subscripts without the need to type <sub> and </sub>? That would be handy. Peter Brown (talk) 03:17, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@Peter M. Brown: Please check in Preferences -> Editing that the checkbox next to "Enable the editing toolbar" is checked. If it isn't, check it and save your prefs.
@Peter M. Brown: forgot to sign. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:01, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@Victor Schmidt: OK, I can retrieve the "edit toolbar" following your instructions. I can see that it would be useful occasionally. For tables, I dunno — the do-it-yourself instructions seem clearer than those called up by the icon.
Thanks. You can "close" this inquiry, or whatever you do when the person requesting help is satisfied. Have a good day.
Peter Brown (talk) 16:55, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@Peter M. Brown: Note there are some other useful things there, like the magnifying glass that brings up a search/replace dialog that knows how to do regex. Also, the pencil to the left of >Advanced turns on useful syntax coloring in the edit window. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 17:40, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
I shall have to study the Regex article; it's rather long.
I assume that you meant to refer to "⌵ Advanced", not ">Advanced".
I do have a question relating to Special:Preferences § mw-prefsection-personal: it says that the answer to "How do you prefer to be described?" will be public. How, as a member of the public, can I obtain this information on an editor? In a talk page discussion involving two or more other editors, I regularly refer to one as "he" while addressing another, but I realize that "she" (or even "they") may be more appropriate. I gather that there is is a way of finding out without changing the subject by asking explicitly?
Peter Brown (talk) 20:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)


Anne Marie Trevelyan Sinophobia Accusation

In this section I want to change to this and inclube emojis as they were part of the texting incident how do I add them as I have tried and it didn't allow me to do so

In May 2020 Labour MP and first British female MP of Chinese decent Sarah Owen crisited Trevelyan for a WhatApp message of a split fortune cookie that says: “You not have coronavirus.” captioned: “Just received my Covid-19 rapid test kit from China. Soooooo relieved!” with a follow up message of "Just for Bob 😉." refering to Conservative MP Bob Seely who repsoned by sending "❤️😊". Owen said “If Anne-Marie Trevelyan doesn’t understand why this sort of humour was left in the 1970s, I would be happy to explain it to her. In recent weeks we’ve seen East Asians spat at, beaten up, verbally attacked and had their businesses targeted. Seely responed to Owen by saying " “It was a well-meaning joke at my expense and I didn’t think anything of it.” refering to Seelys campaign against the Chinces tech company Huawei. Trevelyan has not repsoned to Owen — Preceding unsigned comment added by VictoriousDwarf (talkcontribs)

Place to discuss this would be the article talk page. However, emojis don't render well for some users e.g. those on screen readers, so probably the text is better for accessibility. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:13, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@VictoriousDwarf: Another alternative would be to replace the emoji with a bracketed description of it, like "[heart emoji] [smiley emoji]". There's probably a way to add the emojis with those descriptions in alt text properties, too (probably described at MOS:ACCESS). I'll note that there are multiple typos in the text you quoted above – it should be edited carefully before use, especially considering the topic area, in which people are likely to mis-construe. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 17:49, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Photo uploadEdit

I uploaded a photo but Wikipedia would not allow me to use it for some odd reason, though I am the owner of the photograph.

Anyways, please contact me as soon as possible. I do not want nor think my draft should be deleted either. I am making a historical documentation of the artist X-Calibur via this platform. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Urbanunityproductions (talkcontribs) 06:38, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Note: user has been indef blocked. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:09, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Module talk:Excerpt § Denglisch bugEdit

  You are invited to join the discussion at Module talk:Excerpt § Denglisch bug. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 09:49, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

adding a noteEdit

I've searched the help sections, but am struggling. I want to add a note to some text I have written. This is subsidiary backup, but not a published reference, so it seems like a note would be a good way to include the data. But although I can see notes on pages, I can't find how to create one. Can anyone help please?

Simon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stagememories (talkcontribs) 10:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

This will tell you how to do what I think you want to do. -- Hoary (talk) 12:23, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@Stagememories: information in a article that is not cited to reliable sources can be challenged or just deleted at any time by any editor, whether it is in the main text or in a note. -Arch dude (talk) 15:15, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

I added the reference as a citation not a note, as the process to add a note was just too complex for me. I don't understand why Wikipedia has to make it so much harder than just adding a citation or link? For the record, I had stated that a designer (W. Heath Robinson) had created a range of illustrations for use on pottery "c.1928". To back this up, I gave a number found on the actual pots, which implies that the design was registered in 1928, and therefore that the range was designed in the same year. I considered that the general reader wouldn't need that level of detail, and that the citation didn't really fit into the same category as a published book or article, as pottery pieces can't be referenced in the same way. This is why a note would have been ideal. But I gave up, and referenced it as a citation anyway. Sure, if someone wants to challenge it that's up to them, but Wikipedia doesn't seem to understand that not all citations are straightforward. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stagememories (talkcontribs) 16:32, 27 September 2020 (UTC) --Stagememories (talk) 16:32, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

@Stagememories: we tend to accept photographs as being legitimate. If you still have access to these pieces, you can take photos of those marks. If the pieces are on display in a location that is accessible to the general public, It constitutes a "reliable source" even without such a photograph. It really is a citation, not a note. We do not require that citations use our templates. Templates are a convieninece, and when they get in your way, you should just fall back on our general principle of verifiability (i.e., give enough info for someone else to verify your information) which seems to me to be what you are doing here. Please note that my original hostile-sounding response was a generic response to your fairly generic statement that you were referencing a "non-published reference", which is basically a no-no: see WP:OR. I'll take a look at the article and see if I can help: a note attached to the ref may be the way handle this. -Arch dude (talk) 17:53, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I do have a photo of the backstamp on the piece, which could be uploaded, but think it would be a bit too much detail for the page. After all, while the jug I have pictured on the page is pretty, and relevant to the subject of the page, an image of a backstamp would be a littl dull for the general reader, I feel. Of course, if there was a way up uploading the image as a reference, not on the page... I quite understand that you were only sounding a little hostile for very good reasons. Not a problem. --Stagememories (talk) 18:02, 27 September 2020 (UTC)Simon

Someone I don't know tried logging into my MediaWiki accountEdit

I got an email this morning, saying that someone had requested a reset of my MediaWiki password. I never requested this password reset; in fact, I'm not sure that I even know what MediaWiki is. Can someone explain the difference between MediaWiki and WikiMedia? Of the two, I'm only familiar with WikiMedia. Apparently, I do have an account on MediaWiki, but according to the contributions page, I've never used it before. I am very active on Wikipedia though.

The email that I received specified the IP address of whoever requested the password reset, and WP:TRACEIP says that can be used to determine the owner of an IP account, but I'm not very tech savvy and am not really sure how to use WHOIS. When I go to that website and enter the IP address of whoever requested my password reset, I'm shown five boxes. The first box is titled "Network", the second box is titled "Organization", and the next three boxes are all titled "Point of Contact". All of the boxes except for the one titled "Network" list a location. Not all of these locations are the same. The location listed under "Organization" is also listed under the last "Point of Contact" box, while a separate location is listed under the first and second "Point of Contact" boxes. These two different locations are in different states. Both of the locations for the IP address that I looked up are in the USA, as am I.

Can someone help me better understand what's going on? Why are there two different locations listed across four different boxes for that IP address on WHOIS? And should I be concerned that someone tried to access my MediaWiki account? No one that I know would have had a reason to log into any of my Wiki accounts. --Jpcase (talk) 14:22, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

MediaWiki is the software that runs Wikipedia. You've probably opened a help page there regarding wiki-syntax or something, and all the Wikimedia-run sites share the same log-in session. You can safely disregard these emails, they usually appear after you've had a run-in with some long-term abuser who is trying to annoy you, but there is no danger of them gaining access to your account. – Thjarkur (talk) 14:51, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
If you are worried, you can request two-factor authentication to further protect your account. Ed talk! 14:56, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@Ed6767: Two-factor authentication is only vaguely familiar to me as a concept, but it seems like lots of other websites are encouraging everyone to use it, so do you know why Wikipedia only grants it on a case-by-case basis? -Jpcase (talk) 00:08, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
@Jpcase: your WHOIS data is simply the response of a WHOIS server. See WHOIS to help decipher the response. -Arch dude (talk) 15:12, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
I'm not very good with computers, and there's a lot of technical information in the WHOIS article that would take a long time for me to grasp.
Is someone able to either explain very quickly the difference between the two different locations listed by WHOIS for the IP account or point me to the specific section of the WHOIS article that explains this? I can't think of any nefarious reason for why someone would have tried to hack me, but I'm still curious whether or not the password-change request came from an area where I actually know people or if it simply originated with some random stranger. Thanks! --Jpcase (talk) 16:19, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@Jpcase:Please provide the IP address. Otherwise, this is just too abstract. You have no moral obligation to that IP user to keep it private. -Arch dude (talk) 16:23, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
There's no need to share the IP address with us (since it might be yourself!). But you can go to, it will give you the city. I think you've been looking at the information of the ISP company who owns the IP, rather than geolocation. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:44, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@Pjarkur: Ah, thanks! I just double-checked the results on WHOIS and realized that I made a mistake - at first, I thought that there were two different locations listed across the four boxes, but now I'm realizing that there are actually four different locations listed. The first box doesn't list any location, but each of the subsequent four boxes lists its own unique city.
The reason I got confused is because the four cities are evenly divided between two different states. The city listed on is a completely different fifth city but appears to be very close to the city that WHOIS lists under the "Organization" box. Two of the cities listed on WHOIS are close-ish to me, but the city listed on is in a completely different part of the country from me. So if the IP address is the location of the person who tried accessing my account, then there's essentially zero chance that it's anyone I've ever met. Would there still be any benefit to providing the IP address here, or should I just ignore all of this going forward? --Jpcase (talk) 17:18, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Just ignore, there's very little one can do about this. – Thjarkur (talk) 17:37, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@Pjarkur: @Arch dude: I just noticed a notification from two hours ago showing that someone thanked me for creating this conversation. Which wouldn't be particularly strange, except that when I click on the profile name for the person who thanked me, I'm shown that the profile doesn't actually exist. So as far as I can tell, it seems like someone created a Wikipedia account specifically to "thank" me for my edit and then immediately deleted their account. Is there anything I can do about this? I have to wonder whether the person who clicked the "thank" button for my edit is the same person who tried accessing my account this morning. --Jpcase (talk) 19:30, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
(The account in question in Willy Nice, the account still exists but hasn't made any edits). Yes it's just someone trolling you, nothing to do but ignore. – Thjarkur (talk) 21:21, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
@Þjarkur: Yes, that's the account name. How did you know? I didn't realize it was possible to see another person's notifications on Wikipedia. I realize that I should probably just ignore this, but I'm very confused about who this person is. I don't know anyone who would have any reason to troll me. --Jpcase (talk) 22:34, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
I can't see your notifications, but thanking someone appears in the logs, see hereThjarkur (talk) 22:35, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

How can I add about myselfEdit

How can I add about myself and about my whole family. For Example like : Birla Family (Already exist in Wiki). I wanna add similar contents for my Family i.e Sharma Family — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohitsharma143 (talkcontribs) 15:37, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

That's not possible to do here on Wikipedia (unless entire books have been written about the Sharma family). You could instead create your own website (tools such as are popular) and post content there. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:50, 27 September 2020 (UTC)


How do you search a video by uploading it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KESHA69 (talkcontribs) 19:36, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry, KESHA69, your question doesn't make any sense to me (and I suspect that others have had difficulty too, or somebody would have answered). Please explain what you are trying to do in Wikipedia that you need help with. --ColinFine (talk) 09:05, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

How do I create my own website?Edit

How do I create my own website? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KESHA69 (talkcontribs) 19:38, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

KESHA69 This is not a general help desk. 331dot (talk) 19:47, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Do you mean a Wikipedia user page? I see you haven't created one of those yet. If you want to do so, start here: It's quite easy - and fun! Regards, BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 20:29, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

September 28Edit

Creating a pageEdit

I wish to know how to create a page

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireflywash (talkcontribs) 05:46, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Fireflywash, if you mean that you want to create a WP-article, take the time to read Help:Your first article. WP:TUTORIAL can also be of help. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:24, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

What is Wikitia? Why Article not shown on Google SearchEdit

Hi team, I have a small query. My client written an article on Wikipedia. But still not approved since 2 months. But I see, same article about Director/Producer is published on Wikitia.

Will it be shown to wikipedia also? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaganmehra93 (talkcontribs) 08:36, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

As you were told on your user talk page, if you are editing on behalf of a client you need to make the mandatory declaration as laid out at WP:Paid editing before you make any further edits. If you tell us the name of the article, we can look to see why it hasn't been approved. Wikitia is an entirely separate encyclopedia, not connected with Wikipedia. You will see from the front page of Wikipedia Wikitia that it has 3,793 articles in English, whereas Wikipedia has 6,165,466 articles in English. David Biddulph (talk) 08:51, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Suchetgarh Railway junctionEdit

  Courtesy link: Suchetgarh Jn. railway station

There is no such station in Pakistan. It was a station in JK India. Now abandoned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramakant Wadkar (talkcontribs) 09:00, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Ramakant Wadkar, If you have a reliable source and can cite it, you should feel free to add the abandonment information to the article. Apparently, it did not survive partition.--Quisqualis (talk) 23:56, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

How to Edit Deadlink please?Edit

Anyone can help me with guiding me, how to edit deadlink? thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruhulksagor (talkcontribs) 09:31, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

For guidance on how to dead with a dead link, read Wikipedia:Dead link. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:35, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

User Contributions that *aren't* latest revisionsEdit

I note that there is an option for Special:Contributions to Only show edits that are latest revisions. This only shows the edits that are marked (current).

Is there any way to reverse this, that is, for pages I have contributed to, only show edits later than my most recent revision?

I would like an easy way to spot if somebody has edited an article or responded to a talk page I have contributed to (without having to watch all those pages).

Thanks CapnZapp (talk) 11:05, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

If you open your browser console you could enter $('.mw-uctop').each(function(){$(this).closest('li').remove()}) to achieve that effect. – Thjarkur (talk) 11:32, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Fetching last revision date and timeEdit

I'm looking for a block of code that fetches the last revision date and time of a WP page and displays them in Nepal Standard Time (NPT) in the format d mmm T NPT. I want to bypass the need to manually update the "Last updated:" part in Template:COVID-19 pandemic data/Nepal medical cases by province and district. Best, Inimesh (talk) 11:34, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Would it be sufficient to just mark the day when the template was last edited? If so you can use {{REVISIONYEAR}}/{{REVISIONMONTH}}/{{REVISIONDAY2}} → "2020/09/30" – Thjarkur (talk) 13:32, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Following up on that:
{{time|npt|df-cust=j M g:i A|hide-refresh=yes|_TEST_TIME_={{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}}}30 Sep 9:55 AM [[Nepal Time|NPT]] → 30 Sep 9:55 AM NPT
|df-cust= accepts the formatting codes used by {{#time:}}.
Trappist the monk (talk) 13:47, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Many thanks, Þjarkur and Trappist the monk! Inimesh (talk) 15:13, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
I think that this experiment is a fail. Whenever someone edits COVID-19 pandemic in Nepal § Notes (as a whole-page edit or as a section edit), {{COVID-19 pandemic data/Nepal medical cases by province and district}} will be re-rendered. Re-rendering apparently uses the article's new revision timestamp. I confirmed this by making this edit. The date displayed in the template agrees with the time of my edit:
{{time|npt|df-cust=j M g:i A|hide-refresh=yes|_TEST_TIME_=2020-09-28T15:46:00}} → 28 Sep 9:31 PM NPT
You might want to take this question to WP:VPT.
Trappist the monk (talk) 15:52, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
@Trappist the monk: Interesting. I have removed the Notes section from COVID-19 pandemic in Nepal. There was just one footnote in it, which is now incorporated into the article text. This should work for now. Thank you for your time. Inimesh (talk) 07:47, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

How to reference that sources banned from Wikipedia eg InfoWars, Daily Mail spread conspiracy theories?Edit


I'm working on the article for the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory (a far-right, antisemitic conspiracy theory which claims Western Marxism as the basis of continuing academic and intellectual efforts to subvert Western culture) and I'm compiling a list of organisations which promote or spread the conspiracy. Both InfoWars and Daily Mail have used the term and promoted the conspiracy however I can't use their articles as references because they are blocked. What is the policy for referencing this kind of thing? I've actually found a number of sources which Wikipedia considers reliable which also spread the conspiracy e.g The Times and the The Spectator but I'm unsure if I should link to these directly.

Thanks very much

John Cummings (talk) 11:49, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

John Cummings, you must find reliable sources that name these newspapers as sources that spread the conspiracy theory. So don't cite the things themselves, cite a reliable source that says it about them. Popcornfud (talk) 11:53, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Citing those sites' own articles to support claims that they advocate the conspiracy theory would be primary-source based original research. What you really need are independent sources saying that those sites spread it (e.g. a NYT piece or Routledge book saying "InfoWars spreads this conspiracy theory"). Ian.thomson (talk) 11:55, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks @Ian.thomson: and @Popcornfud:, could you point to the policy page for this? I'm confused because it doesn't seem like original research because they use the term outright e.g Toby Young wrote an article called "Are the cultural Marxists in Retreat, or Lying Low?". Is it true that I should find sources that reference them spreading this conspiracy even for sources that Wikipedia accepts as sources, or only for those that don't? John Cummings (talk) 12:01, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
WP:PRIMARY, but that is somewhat contextual. There's also the argument (not exactly policy but commonly accepted consensus in many other cases) that we would need an independent source to establish that the (say) InfoWars article wasn't an anomaly or that it was noteworthy. Ian.thomson (talk) 12:06, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
John Cummings, if a source says something like (to make up an example) "Cultural marxists are the biggest threat to the world right now", that doesn't show that the source is wrong, or that cultural marxism is a conspiracy theory. You need other sources to say that. Does that make sense? Popcornfud (talk) 15:17, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Popcornfud thanks, the fact that its a conspiracy theory is clearly established in the article already, all I want to do is provide references to show that InfoWars, the Daily Mail, The Times, Spectator etc are spreading it. John Cummings (talk) 08:11, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
John Cummings, yeah, to do that you will need secondary sources saying that the Daily Mail etc are spreading the conspiracy theory. Otherwise it's WP:SYNTH. Popcornfud (talk) 09:34, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Popcornfud I think I'm not explaining myself very well, let me try to ask it another way... What are the rules for quoting text from a source that is not considered a reliable source? John Cummings (talk) 09:43, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
John Cummings, why would you want to do that? It's not a reliable source.
I think I understand what you're trying to do, anyway. It's like this, right?
Source A, reliable: "Cultural marxism is a conspiracy theory."
Source B, unreliable: "Cultural marxists are killing the world!"
You want to cite source A to show that cultural marxism is a conspiracy theory. Then, this established, you want to quote source B, and say: "Look! Source B is spreading the conspiracy theory."
If that is what you want to do... then you can't do that. You are applying source A to source B and creating a new claim, which is: "Source B is spreading the conspiracy theory." This is WP:SYNTHESIS.
Instead of using source B, you need a different source saying that source B is spreading the conspiracy theory. Popcornfud (talk) 09:50, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
@Popcornfud: ok, I understand what you're saying, thanks for taking the time to explain it. Where I do not follow the logic you've used is that I'm creating a 'new claim' by quoting someone's writing who very clearly promotes the conspiracy e.g an article called "Are the cultural Marxists in Retreat, or Lying Low?", they're literally saying the name of the conspiracy in the title of article. John Cummings (talk) 10:52, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
John Cummings, it comes down to a question of original research.
You can't just look at Source B and say "Look! They're spreading a conspiracy theory." That's your own personal analysis. That doesn't cut it. You need a secondary source to say that about the first source. If Source A doesn't say anything about Source B, then you need to find a source that does. Popcornfud (talk) 11:03, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the explanation @Popcornfud:, I think where I was confused is on Wikipedia:Deprecated sources it says 'Deprecated sources can normally be cited as a primary source when the source itself is the subject of discussion, such as to describe its own viewpoint.'. John Cummings (talk) 14:17, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

John Cummings, yeah, it's not straightforward. You could potentially cite the Daily Mail if you wanted to show an example of the Daily Mail's position on cultural marxism, but you couldn't use that to show that the Daily Mail was propagating a conspiracy theory. In all honesty, your safest bet is to find other, reliable sources that describe these sources. Popcornfud (talk) 14:39, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Popcornfud thanks, I'll keep looking. John Cummings (talk) 14:41, 29 September 2020 (UTC)


Hello, could I request for admin? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BossDragon64934 (talkcontribs) 15:53, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

BossDragon64934, hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! Unfortunately, you will probably not be nominated for adminship as you have made only 19 edits. However, to answer your question: see WP:Requests for adminship/Nominate Heart (talk) 15:57, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict)BossDragon64934 You have made 19 edits ever to English Wikipedia, so you are not experienced enough. Most admins will have at least a couple of years of solid editing and at least 5,000 good edits. Note that you don't need admin permissions to do most things such as create and edit content on Wikipedia. WP:RFA is the process for it, but I advise that if you do try, you don't have a chance right now of being successful. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:59, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict)BossDragon64934, I have to agree with HeartGlow30797, you are not yet ready to become an admin. That said, there are a lot of ways to contribute to Wikipedia without being an admin, and contributing in those areas will help you learn the ropes and the rules and policies that admins are expected to implement, and in a year or two you may be able to demonstrate that you are ready. I recommend looking at the task center and maintenance areas for things you would enjoy doing.  Get your feet wet doing copyediting, fixing typos and grammatical errors. Then move on to referencing.  Category:Articles lacking sources is a good place to start; look for things in your local library or on the internet that verify the information in articles that are lacking sources and add citations to the articles. At some point you will naturally migrate into deletion discussions; especially if you come across an article that is a hoax or totally unverifiable. By participating in activities like adding sources and deletion discussions, you will gain an understanding of notability and sourcing and how they play together. At that point you'll be ready to try writing an article. Perhaps you'll find a red link in an article you're copyediting and be curious about the topic, or maybe a source you're using for one thing will have information about something we don't have an article about, or maybe you'll want to take a look at requested articles and see if there's something you either know something about or are curious about and want to write. Research and write the article. Nominate it for the did you know section on the front page. Work to develop it to Good or featured status. Then do it again. Do a few articles. Keep an eye out for vandalism and fight it. Maybe get into new page patrol (especially once you've written a couple articles yourself). Do NPP for a while, and then you'll be ready. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 16:11, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
BossDragon64934 may sound like "just another Help desk naif", because he apparently is the same troll behind all of them. A veritable institution on this page and the WP:Teahouse, playing a repetitive game involving feigned idiocy. This account was one of several he created at the start of the pandemic lockdown. After a subtlely vandalistic launch, BossDragon went into "sleeper" mode; he's now active again to waste the time of others in reverting him or, worse, giving advice. Asking for adminship or to be a host appears to be one of his hallmarks.--Quisqualis (talk) 23:23, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

2021 Major League baseball seasonEdit

Can you fix the error i made about Ron Roenicke being Fired please. (talk) 16:47, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

  Fixed There were a number of problems with both cites in that section, not the least of which was that neither link pointed to the article intended. There were a number of typos in parameter names for the cite templates as well. I think I found and cited the correct sources. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 17:22, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

citations help in wiki translatorEdit

Hi, So my attempts at using the translator from wiki failed miserably in the citations area. My atempts at searching to find a guide or further info simply found me really random stuff. The named reference inline citations dissapear in the translated text (as the linked terminology works, I find this odd). It also shows up with tons of errors, not a single citations was correct. Is the best practise to sinmply go through and re-enter citations by hand into the new language? I am thinking there I am not the only one with this problem and that there must be a fix.... I hope a non-manual one. Thanks for the help BF (talk) 17:03, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

@Thebaconfairy: Can you provide some details, like which translator, which source and target articles, etc.? Different Wikipedias have different ways of doing citations, not all of which are necessarily supported on all others. I can imagine (though don't know) that some translators don't know how to deal with cites well or at all. The talk or other support page of the translator itself is probably a better place to start, though. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 17:26, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

My Spanish to English & English to French both failed. Either there has to be a go-to method or there isn't, I would be very surprised if this was a special circumstance. --BF (talk) 17:50, 28 September 2020 (UTC) BF (talk) 17:50, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

@Thebaconfairy: Again, please provide both of: 1. a link to the translator you are using; 2. a link to a Spanish source article that failed to translate to English. Have you tried asking at the translator's talk page (if a wikipedia tool) or other support page, where you are more likely to find people familiar with the translation tool? —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 21:42, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
The page is Draft:María Ortega Gálvez, which was translated from es:María Ortega. The problems are apparently with the Spanish-language cite parameters, which can be seen in this version. I don't know anything about the translation tool used. kennethaw88talk 22:22, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
It looks like the red error messages provide accurate suggestions for English names of the Spanish parms. You just have to search/replace \|\s*título\s*= with |title= using the magnifying glass icon on the advanced editing toolbar at the top of the edit window and check "Treat search string as a regular expression". Do that for each of the parameters as needed. As to whether the translation tool can do it for you, I have no way of knowing without knowing what tool it is, but I have no special knowledge of them that can't be gained from looking at their docs or asking at their support pages. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:03, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Note, too, that the date values in cites are rather fussy. The first letter of the month name must be capitalized. (MOS:DATE) —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:07, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the help! I've asked for further info on the translations talk page—I hadn't realized that would be a good place to ask. Your workarounds were helpful, but I am hoping there might be something in the program itself.BF (talk) 09:16, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
You still haven't told us what program you were using, so we can't help you there. David Biddulph (talk) 09:25, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Interview as SourceEdit

Hi, My article on The Word Balloon podcast was not approved because it said I did not have enough reliable sources. Most of the information about the background of the podcast came from an interview/discussion I had with the creator/host of the podcast. How can I site this so that my article gets approved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maddy DalPonte (talkcontribs) 20:27, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Interviews are not useful for proving notability as Wikipedia defines it, full stop. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Hasteur Hasteur Ha-- oh.... 20:34, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
@Maddy DalPonte: - the article Draft:Word Balloon Podcast appears to be sourced primarily with a blog, itself not a reliable source. Without broader coverage, it will be hard to show that the podcast is notable. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 20:37, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Timtempleton When you say it's primarily sourced to a blog, do you mean Bleeding Cool? Wikiproject Video games and Wikiproject Comics both consider it reliable. Now, I would agree that it needs broader coverage than just one publication in order to be notable, but I don't think Bleeding Cool is unreliable, just not enough by itself. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 21:07, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
ONUnicorn good to know - I didn't check to see that it also has an article - I was going on first impressions of the layout, and the fact that it was pretty much the only site used as a source. So I stand corrected on reliability, although few blogs meet that threshold. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 21:22, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Such an interview is of no help in establishing notability. The reliable sources need to be independent of the subject. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:36, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Maddy DalPonte In addition to what everyone above said about establishing notability (and arguably more important than notability) an unpublished interview is not something that is verifiable by other people. If you talked to someone and wrote a Wikipedia article based on your conversation with them, there is no way for anyone else to verify that that conversation took place as described. Even if the interview is published, the fact that you conducted the interview constitutes original research, which is not allowed. Now, if someone else did an interview and published it in a reliable publication, it would then be able to be cited for facts, but it still wouldn't contribute to notability, because notability requires sources that are produced independently of the article subject. So, if you find a published interview, you can cite it for facts but in order for the article to remain on Wikipedia there also has to be multiple sources besides the interview which satisfy the requirements imposed by the notability guidelines. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 20:55, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

September 29Edit

On this date 1899, John Albert Burr invented one of the first rotary-blade lawn mowers.Edit

 On this date 1899, John Albert Burr invented one of the first rotary-blade lawn mowers.

This Black inventors Patent number is #624,749.

Reference: Created Equal The Lives and Ideas of Black American Innovators By James Michael Brodie Copyright 1993, by Bill Adler Books, Inc. William Morrow and Co. Inc., New York ISBN 0-688-11536-5 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:1213:C142:BC57:6227:EBA2:D7DE (talk) 02:18, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Hey there! Welcome to Wikipedia! Do you have a question on how to use/edit Wikipedia? Heart (talk) 02:25, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Hello, IP editor. Based on a quick Google and Google Books search, I believe that John Albert Burr is probably notable and eligible for a Wikipedia biography. He already has one sentence of coverage in the history section of Lawn mower. Please consider registering an optional Wikipedia account and read Your first article. If you decide to try to write this article, I will assist you. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:38, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
And I'll be glad to help. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:33, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Changing the UsernameEdit

Dear Wikipedia, How/where do I change my user name?


Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darionapoliguitar (talkcontribs) 08:40, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

You may change your username by making a request at Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS. 331dot (talk) 08:46, 29 September 2020 (UTC)


dear Wikipedia HelpDesk,

my mail to You is overdue . personally , i am an adamant digital neanderthal . i work in Film &TV and i am lucky & grateful to have wonderful people in my life who are looking after my digital presence which we keep to a minimum . please believe you me ,they have tried now for a very looong time to reach out , contact you and get the following issue sorted's about my web-profile on Wikipedia , particularly my photo !

it's inaccurate , outdated and belongs to the past . plus it is per se a very unfortunate picture , since it was taken randomly , at some night event . it has little to do with who i am today and how i look today . it doesn't really represent me.although this might be also my personal sensitivity , my lovely people failed in their quest via you to have this image changed/amended/updated and i am making now an effort to contact you now directly since it is about Me and my personal right.

i have a photo where i own the rights to and can easily get a confirmation from friend & photographer Benedict Frank.

ideally , i would like this photo to be used for All wikipedia sites/ languages because on the German version , there's again a photo which i can live with , especially as an adamant UNICEF Ambassador but would also prefer to use this Benedict Frank photo .

please kindly help me and let me know how to proceed and how i can get this Benedict Frank photo to you.

thank You dearly ever so much !

heartily truly and with radiant health , Anatole — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toli Taubman (talkcontribs) 13:58, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

I've updated your photo on the English article to the same as the German one while someone else helps you with adding a new photo
John Cummings (talk) 14:30, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Idea: Alternative to FacebookEdit

Hi Wikipedia, Considering how social media is being manipulated/used for nefarious purpose, I'm thinking YOU could design a platform where people can socialize without the whole thing devolving into an Orwellian nightmare. You could ask for contributions from users, and avoid advertising, which seems to be used for mind control, etc... I don't know what parameters you'd want to put onto it, but you are smarter than me and could design it so that the community is available for people to use it in a spirit of sharing and discussion. It's just an idea. I think people are ready for an alternative to Facebook/Twitter. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AmyKathleenRyan (talkcontribs) 15:56, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

While I'm sure people are ready for an alternative to Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, Instagram, Telegraph, and whatever else is out there of that ilk, such a project would be beyond the scope of the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation's mission to provide free educational content to the world. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 16:00, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
WT Social? I haven't tried it, so I can't say if it's any good. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:06, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Correcting a pageEdit

I am trying to correct a page on WIKIPEDIA, most exactly DANIELA NICOLETA SOFRONIE and my edit is not accepted even if it is the correct version of the info presented there! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:43, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Looks like you changed the spelling of the last name with no explanation. Start a discussion on the article's talk page if you have reasons for this that are supported by reliable sources. RudolfRed (talk) 18:05, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Gadget/gadget definitionEdit

I notice that the gadget/gadget definition appears on almost every project, however one thing puzzles me. Why is this namespace used on every project but no pages have this namespace? See ru:Special:Random/gadget, fr:Special:Random/gadget, and es:Special:Random/gadget. Note that Gadget:Invention, Travel, & Adventure on the English Wikipedia is NOT an actual gadget, it is a redirect as this title should not be used for an article. Gioguch (talk) 17:54, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

@Gioguch: This namespace was originally configured to contain the gadgets for the project, so they can be edited by anyone, as Pages in The MediaWiki:-Namespace cannot be edited by anyone that isn't an interface admin. It isn't heavely used, howewer, In theory you could create a gadget there. Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:36, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Here is a relevant old discussion, it appears to have been part of a plan of reorganizing gadgets and making them more modular, but that plan was never finished. – Thjarkur (talk) 22:13, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Question from ALLBNEdit

Hello, I am trying to publish the page:

Someone was helping me with this page and moved it and now I can not find it to publish it. Thank you for your time. ALLBN (talk) 19:03, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello, ALLBN. You were working two months ago in the Wikipedia:Sandbox, which is a communal page for testing editing, and gets cleared regularly. I have copied the content of the version you pointed at to your user sandbox User:ALLBN/sandbox. Nobody is likely to interfere with it there, unless you put unacceptable content such as personal attacks or copyright violations there. --ColinFine (talk) 20:28, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Conflict Disclosure: Academic Journal ProjectEdit

I am the founding editor of a scholarly journal covered under the Wikipedia Academic Journals Project. I want to make some purely factual corrections to the article and to add a bit of factual detail (including correcting an inconsistency between the current editor's name in the sidebar of the article and in its stubby text). I founded the journal in 1979 and passed on the editorship in 1995, but I remain on its editorial board. I believe my edits would have value, are purely factual (e.g., adding the names of the first two editors of the journal and the dates of their succession), and would not in any way undermine trust in the integrity of Wikipedia. I hope I can publish edits to the article with disclosure as a connected contributor, but I do not understand how or where I am supposed to make the disclosure. Please advise. THANKS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grdfoge (talkcontribs) 20:34, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

You would request the changes on the talk page of the article, citing published, reliable sources for the changes, for them to be done by an editor without your COI. In the same post (please remember to sign) you would state the nature of your COI. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:15, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
@Grdfoge: WP:EDITREQ has more information about making edit requests on the article's talk page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:26, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Russian botsEdit

Have you noticed russian bots editing middle eastern content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:16A2:613A:6859:C9EF:5952:A393:5A4C (talk) 21:56, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

No, have you? RudolfRed (talk) 22:24, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Feedback on color codingEdit

Color coded table
Category Chinese Count
Temple 寺廟 25
Government 衙署 12
Fort 關塞 12
Residence 宅第 11
City wall 城郭 8
Industrial 產業 5
Tomb 墓葬 5
Lighthouse 燈塔 4
Train station 車站 3
School 書院 3
Plaque 碑碣 2
Paifang 牌坊 1
Church 教堂 1
Bridge 橋樑 1
Ancestral shrine 祠堂 1
Other 其他 12

I've recently created List of national monuments of Taiwan, and I'm thinking of color coding the categories, shown collapsed on the right, that I think will bring more contrast. Would this be helpful, or is this unnecessary? Is there some accessibility guideline that I'm not aware of? Any feedback on these colors, or the list article in general, is welcome.  Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 22:41, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Ganbaruby, have you consulted MOS:COLOUR? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:55, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
@Tenryuu: Yup, though most of that seems to be about the contrast between color and text, instead of between different colors. None of the cells are links, colors aren’t essential, and they all should be WCAG AAA.  Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 23:13, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
@Ganbaruby: The School looks a little iffy to me, though it is AA. Can I suggest School (#CFA0A0), which is AAA? This is assuming the #202122 I get for the foreground color – I don't know exactly where that comes from or whether other skins, etc. might be darker by default; I wouldn't guess they'd be much lighter. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:23, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
@AlanM1: You're right, that's a mistake on my part. I've reflected it on the table, and checked the other colors again. Thanks!  Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 02:38, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

September 30Edit

National socialist movementEdit

There is a page on Wikipedia containing info about the National socialist movement. It states their political orientation is “far-right”.

Socialism for starters is not on the right side of the spectrum, it’s a leftist ideology. The right or Republican Party was formed in opposition to the Democratic Party and slavery. The Republican Party was also founded in the north- Ripon, Wisconsin to be exact, what side did they fight in the civil war? The right or Republicans support capitalism not socialism.

This claim, that the National Socialist Movement is far-right or right in any way is wrong and mis-information. Totalitarian government is large government- another leftist ideology, the exact definition of it.

The claim in that article is completely wrong and goes against everything Wikipedia stands for and represents. The article needs to be corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:05, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

The right has always been about conservatism, and the left liberalism, since the days of the French Republic (indeed, the terms "left-wing" and "right-wing" come from where the liberals and conservatives sat while in legislative sessions - liberals to the left side of the chamber, and conservatives to the right). "Big government" can apply equally to either wing, especially outside of North America. (Also, fascism - such as espoused by a rather infamous National Socialist party - is conservatism taken to its illogical extreme.) —A little blue Bori v^_^v Hasteur Hasteur Ha-- oh.... 00:21, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict)Depending on which page you are posting about, you might find that this has been discussed already at the article talk page, which is where you should make suggestions to improve the article. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 00:26, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
(ec) In any case, this is the general help desk. If you have suggestions for improving an article, the place to find people that actually work on that article, and who are interested in and knowledgeable about the subject, is the article's individual talk page. There are several articles listed at National Socialist Movement, and you didn't mention which, or I'd give you the precise link. Go to the article of concern, click on the "Talk" tab, and you'll find what I'm sure is a long history of discussion. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:33, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

How to add somethingEdit

I want to know how to Add something to the People Murdered in Washington State, my Sister was Murdered in Kelso,Wa. I want to add her to the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AllenMom14 (talkcontribs) 01:44, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

AllenMom14, she must be WP:NOTABLE in order to be added. Second of all, you are referencing a category, which requires a page to be created and added to it. Happy editing! Heart (talk) 01:48, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

About WP:RfcEdit

Suppose in an Rfc all editors are agreed on a particular thing which is supported by sources . While one editor is repeatedly putting his personal views and nt producing a reliable source to support his claims which is opposite to the view of other editors. Also not tries to reach on agreement with others. What will be the result of that Rfc after request fr closure. Also does Rollback doesn't work when an editor is using mobile to edit?Heba Aisha (talk) 02:09, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

@Heba Aisha: I cannot help you with broad generalities. I would need to know specifically what Rfc you are referring to. I doubt that other help desk volunteers will be able to help either. -Arch dude (talk) 03:18, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Arch dude, I think he is referring to this. Heart (talk) 03:24, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Ya you got it right User:HeartGlow30797Heba Aisha (talk) 04:08, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

WP:Page nameEdit

On WP:Page name it says:

  • A pagename cannot contain % followed by 2 hexadecimal digits, unless for a percent-encoded character, although there are exceptions.

Like what exceptions? Can I have an example please? Gioguch (talk) 03:29, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Gioguch, %u2318. Heart (talk) 03:39, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
HeartGlow30797, technically, "u" is not a hexadecimal digit. Hexadecimal digits are 0-9 and A-F. Gioguch (talk) 03:42, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Gioguch, Well the closest one I could find using Special:Search was %ch. Happy editing! Heart (talk) 03:44, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
HeartGlow30797, Thank you! Gioguch (talk) 03:45, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

help me for account creatingEdit

hello, i want to create an account in "wikipedia" but did not know hoe to create, can you guide and suggest me, how to create an account of any person or company or institution? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shibaniairserviceslimited (talkcontribs) 03:46, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Shibaniairserviceslimited, hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! It appears that you have already created an account and do not need (and should not) to create another one. However, your username concerns me as it is promotional. Please see WP:USERNAME and consider renaming yourself. Heart (talk) 04:10, 30 September 2020 (UTC)